winterwood314:

keeping-up-with-the-amis:

Mme Javert was the only one who responded. I consider myself vastly unsurprised.

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Sorry for the long, long silence! A mass of papers and a few exams got in the way. I want you to know I love A View for the Future so much and I…

Thanks for the long explanation! “This is a recovery for the Amis who need to deal with the aftermath, their recoveries are obviously going to be a lot shorter than Enjolras’” says a lot. Well, I guess I’m just missing Combeferre a bit then:)

Yay for the metaphorical phoenix. I think once in a fic I wrote something like “Enjolras knows better than anyone that anything immortal can be destroyed by fire”.

I’m very much looking forward to seeing how Feuilly will come to terms with this. Though I’m hoping this fic/journey would never end!

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winterwood314:

tcregan:

So this is a birthday present for the wonderful, delightful stalinistqueens who likes really creepy!Grantaire.

Happy Birthday!! I hope you like it. :3

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I don’t know why your stalker!Grantaires scenarios always remind me of the heroine in…

It’s worth reading. Dostoyevsky writing femmslash! Passionate kisses all over the body nightly! Of course kiss on the lips is not enough for the Russians.
It would be wonderful if you ever do a drabble of this.

tcregan:

So this is a birthday present for the wonderful, delightful stalinistqueens who likes really creepy!Grantaire.

Happy Birthday!! I hope you like it. :3

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I don’t know why your stalker!Grantaires scenarios always remind me of the heroine in Dostoyevsky’s Netochka Nezvanova…She secretly kissed the girl she’s infatuated with every night, and it turns out that the latter was awake all those times, only too confused with her feelings to react to the kisses:-)

keeping-up-with-the-amis:

Mme Javert was the only one who responded. I consider myself vastly unsurprised.

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Sorry for the long, long silence! A mass of papers and a few exams got in the way. I want you to know I love A View for the Future so much and I think it’s getting better and better. I love how you wrapped up Joly’s subplot and made the Enjolras-Grantaire relationship a part of it. This is a story about a journey, which makes it fascinating. And I’m glad that you don’t exactly know where it will end up either. This makes us even!

This is also a story about recovery, and recoveries should be this slow and detailed. I remember I enjoyed reading Hear Now the Tale of a Jet Black Sunrise, even if I can hardly see the fragile teenager!Enjolras in that story ever grows up to be canon!Enjolras. Which reminds me – will Enjolras become even stronger when his recovery is finished? Last week I went to see a Peking Opera in which the heroine, a swan princess, is burned to death by her enemies. She then comes back to life through the fire as a phoenix to revenge her death. (Don’t mind the ridiculous plot; it’s all an excuse to do some super-difficult dance and acrobatic fighting anyway.) The actress became so stunning when she come back as the phoenix; it’s almost touching. So what I want to say is – well, it’s not about the revenge part, because any kind of a personal revenge is not Enjolras’ style. I mean maybe he doesn’t need to be forever in the shadow of his former self. He can transform into something different but also glorious.

BTW, will Combeferre get a second chapter? Courfeyrac and Joly both starred in a couple of chapters and you illustrate how their individual ways to cope with Enjolras’ trauma gradually changes. Will Combeferre get his own arc? Or he will continue to be an unchanging cornerstone that can be relied on?

And hooray for THE FIRM! I really do think this would do a lot of good for a depressed person with low self-esteem to establish something and feel better. And if Enjolras thinks himself as a victim now…then standing up for other victims surely sounds a job to his liking.

debonaircourfeyrac:

First part of the Enjolras/Javert fic…which is turning out more serious and straight-faced than I thought it would. Hope the cut works - it never seems to work for me!

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Very interesting indeed! I agree with all the points that other reviewers have made. And I’m happy that Jehan is alive; I originally thought he wouldn’t make it since Javert’s spying still happened. With Jehan’s death out of the way, things would be a bit easier for this pairing.

BTW, you needn’t worry about overwriting at all:-) Every kind of style has its strength and its weakness. Wouldn’t have the strength if not for the weakness. And your grand style is very much a right(and beautiful) voice for writing Enjolras.

keeping-up-with-the-amis:

winterwood314:

keeping-up-with-the-amis:

debonaircourfeyrac:

TCRegan’s Ramblings: winterwood314: God, how I hate talking with Javert fans who think…

winterwood314:

tcregan:

winterwood314:

God, how I hate talking with Javert fans who think Enjolras is but a empty, shallow symbol…

They hate him because they think Enjolras is a grand and solemn stereotype with all the glorious heroic traits to him, thus not “a real character” and not “human”. And it’s all good to hate something false.

Orhan Pamuk has said something like this, only that the exact quote isn’t about Enjolras, it’s about Hugo’s whole writing. He hates Hugo because he thinks Hugo is all about false heroism and old-fashioned grand prose.

You should tell them that they’re behaving like stereotypical douchenuggets.

I did give away that Orhan Pamuk book, never wanting to see it again.

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keeping-up-with-the-amis:

winterwood314:

God, how I hate talking with Javert fans who think Enjolras is but a empty, shallow symbol and a big failure of Hugo’s writing. And they think they’re being polite by not throwing “Enjolras is a Mary Sue” to my face.

But Enjolras was mean to…

Since Javert can be seen in an anti-hero/semi-villain sort of way, it’s far easier to ignore the being symbol part. He can be looked into in both ways, thus not monotone.

keeping-up-with-the-amis:

debonaircourfeyrac:

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winterwood314:

tcregan:

winterwood314:

God, how I hate talking with Javert fans who think Enjolras is but a empty, shallow symbol…

They hate him because they think Enjolras is a grand and solemn stereotype with all the glorious heroic traits to him, thus not “a real character” and not “human”. And it’s all good to hate something false.

Orhan Pamuk has said something like this, only that the exact quote isn’t about Enjolras, it’s about Hugo’s whole writing. He hates Hugo because he thinks Hugo is all about false heroism and old-fashioned grand prose.

debonaircourfeyrac:

keeping-up-with-the-amis:

winterwood314:

keeping-up-with-the-amis:

winterwood314:

God, how I hate talking with Javert fans who think Enjolras is but a empty, shallow symbol and a big failure of Hugo’s writing. And they think they’re being polite by not throwing “Enjolras is a Mary Sue” to my face.

But Enjolras was mean to their BABEEE! And Enjolras has…

Doesn’t Hugo mention that Javert is even calmer than Enjolras after being arrested by the latter? Which doesn’t make Enjolras a good Mary Sue at all.

Why do fans have to be mean to each other? I want to read Enjolras/Javert, seriously.

If you want Enjolras/Javert, ask a fan of Enjolras. 99% of the time, they’re better at getting things IC, are respectful to both characters, and are capable of writing very hot porn.

I might make this a priority for the weekend - starting my Javert/Enjolras fic. Seeing as it’s mostly written in my head.

Ah it’s wonderful news! Thank you very much!

I personally always think Javert and Enjolras would easily fit into a 19th-Century-great-Russian-realistic-novel kind of setting. The grim father figure and the angelic yound student and all. After different political choices they don’t speak with each other any more. The young one ends up dead in any kind of revolutionary attempt. Javert goes to identify the body.

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debonaircourfeyrac:

winterwood314:

tcregan:

winterwood314:

God, how I hate talking with Javert fans who think Enjolras is but a empty, shallow symbol and a big failure of Hugo’s writing. And they think they’re being polite by not throwing “Enjolras is a Mary Sue” to my face.

Did you ask them how he was a Mary Sue? Because I…

Yeah, I could have argued with them, but I was afraid I would sound exactly like Fanboy!Marius, making everybody facepalm with my tirades.

They didn’t directly throw the Mary Sue thing to my face, though. By saying something like “well Javert is ugly in canon, you can see the difference”.

And this quote: ”Enjolras is this empty bottle that contained all the humanity of the other amis.” Eh, funny metaphor?

Oh, goodness - you mean I’m not the only one whose met them as well? I wonder if we’ve encountered the same individual?

Rubbish he’s an “empty bottle”. He’s not merely a receptical - he has wonderful flashes of humour, humanity and warmth. The same argument that is used with Javert - that what we’re *told* about him isn’t what we’re shown - applies equally to Enjolras. We’re told Enjolras is stoic and narrow - cold statue - but what we’re *shown* is entirely different.

No, whom I met are a couple of Chinese Javert fangirls. Glad(?) to know that these bias are the same everywhere.

Yes, there’re all sorts of little details that make Enjolras human and warm. But when people have no love for the character, they will be conveniently blind to these details.

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